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Post by thevicarsson on May 22, 2009 10:31:08 GMT -5
Hi I'm Matthew. I'm 13 and i live in Newcastle, England. My mother is a vicar but i don't want to make a song and dance about that. It may seem as though i've been forced into christianity, which i have not. Just wanted to say hello.
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Post by John on May 22, 2009 10:49:00 GMT -5
wel shalom matthew- i am 13 as well. england! wow... shalom (peace).
if you dont mind me asking, what is a 'vicar?' i have never heard of it.
what do like to do? video games, etc?
you definately look promising as a person Yah (God) could use.
shalom- john
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Post by thevicarsson on May 22, 2009 10:57:29 GMT -5
Your running a religion forum and you don't know what a vicar is you should be ashamed deeply ashamed.
A vicar is the priest of a church of england(COE) church, and in COE woman are aloud to be vicars. My mam is actually coming towards the end of her curacy. A curacy is a 3-4 year placement in a church working with an 'actual' vicar. However my mam spent well over a year of her curacy in a vacancy
does answer your question sorry about the cheeky bold, italic and underline thing
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Post by John on May 22, 2009 11:01:45 GMT -5
wow. thank you for the answer. i will look more into it. i think i have heard of a 'vicar' but never knew what it was. being in america, i dont know much about the church of england.
it sounds like it is well organized though.
shalom- john
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Post by thevicarsson on May 22, 2009 12:13:52 GMT -5
Vicar also applies to the equivelant in baptist, methodist etc. Excluding catholic that is priest
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Post by John on May 22, 2009 13:14:05 GMT -5
i go to a methodist church and there hasnt been any mention of a vicar.
shalom- john
and i was raised near baptists church's- again, no vicar
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anochria
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Post by anochria on May 27, 2009 12:17:00 GMT -5
Nice to have your acquaintance.
I have a lot of respect for the Church of England.
N.T. Wright is one of my favorite authors.
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Post by Jonatan on Jun 3, 2009 6:07:35 GMT -5
Vicar is the same function as maybe pastor is. The problem is if you want to find it in Bible - it's not biblical title, cos only traditional churches have these vicars.
But they can be compared to pastors (which are in Bible) or to Bishops (in Paul's letters to Timothy)
Sh'lom!
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Post by John on Jun 3, 2009 14:35:55 GMT -5
i personally think that we can form our own church gov't. i dont think the apostles would have minded had we not accepted their church gov't. however, if a church weere raised by a person, than that person should have say as to the tradition he would follow concerning church gov't. this is part of the traditions shaul speaks of in the corinhians. they were following the other apostles way of running the church, but Shaul was the one who founded it. i personally think that the besy way to run a church though is to make i resemble teh heavenly, namely, angels.
shalom-john
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Post by thevicarsson on Jun 6, 2009 4:23:54 GMT -5
Vicars aren't bishops. They are very different thing(in COE).
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2009 8:33:54 GMT -5
can you start that thread on how your church government works?
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Post by Jonatan on Jun 8, 2009 7:55:36 GMT -5
Vicars aren't bishops. They are very different thing(in COE). But what then exactly is vicar or what do vicars resemble most in Bible? Pastors? Evangelists? Teachers? Apostles? or Levitical priests in OT? - well if priests, but that would be very unbiblical. |
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Post by John on Jun 8, 2009 14:17:14 GMT -5
jonatan, i think that a church is responsible for creating their own church government. they cannot play the role of priests as priests have to come form levi, and the priests cannot do anything as their is not temple.
and we dont even understand fully how shauls system of church government worked, and we should not work off of a partial understanding. be complete, james says.
shalom john
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anochria
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Post by anochria on Jun 11, 2009 20:37:09 GMT -5
Matty,
What's up with your forums? Haven't been able to access them lately.
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Post by Jonatan on Jun 12, 2009 6:47:01 GMT -5
jonatan, i think that a church is responsible for creating their own church government. they cannot play the role of priests as priests have to come form levi, and the priests cannot do anything as their is not temple. and we dont even understand fully how shauls system of church government worked, and we should not work off of a partial understanding. be complete, james says. shalom john Well, true biblical ministry gifts are those found in Bible - Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor and Teacher. As Derek Prince (I think) said: Good effects
in New covenant can be realised only through New covenant methods.If some church want to realise their own thoughts how the assembly should be lead, without following biblical principles, they're not walking in Lord's will. If the assembly does not submit into authority of Bible, Word of God, it's lead by men and not by Lord. In that case none can say there is real theocracy. |
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Post by thevicarsson on Jun 12, 2009 9:04:08 GMT -5
Thats interesting me and john have been able to get on good anochria
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Post by John on Jun 12, 2009 13:53:56 GMT -5
ummm- john. just because something has a different name in that than the bible does not make it a postition not supported by biblical principles.
plus,the bible does not tell much to us about the church government.
anyeway- we are polutting matty's place... start a thread about this under "Yisrael and the congregation"
shalom- john
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