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[pioneer]

Well Jeordin, quite frankly I haven't given it much thought in regards to religion.

On several occassions I have read peoples comments to a Religious Column writer, saying like it is so hard to live in both worlds. So true when one trys to live a double life, it's just as the writer of James speaks of a double minded person, Jas 1:7 For that person must not suppose that a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways, will receive anything from the Lord.

And Yeshua saying you can not serve two masters.

It would have been better for me if I had learned the bible at thirteen like John, how many temtations could have been fended off had I had a clue they were also a sin and not approved of by my God. As you may know that hindsight is 20/20! Looking forward is much dimmer esspecially with out new eyes from God.

Hope this was what you wanted to know.

Shalom u'vracha

[itiswritten]

Well Jeordin I will have to give this some thought. Right off hand I can think of a couple of scriptures to consider.

Philippians 4:5
Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control.

Like I said, I will have to think on this more.

[John]

thats just like telling a murderer 'i dont have a problem with it- they chose that life.'

[itiswritten]

May 7, 2009 5:43:51 GMT -5 John said:

thats just like telling a murderer 'i dont have a problem with it- they chose that life.'

I assume that you are responding to me John. I'm not sure what you think that I was saying, but you have apparently misunderstood what I was stating. Anorexia is hardly a "moderate" diet or lifestyle. In addition, Anorexia and bulimia are certainly not a fruit of the Spirit and is a loss of true self control.

[Jonatan]

Maybe yes. Now this is interesting but I think even Pharisees and every common Jews in times of Yeshua would consider Anorexia or bulimia as demon-possesion (or at least demonic advice for people to live this way of life). VERY INTERESTING that Pharisees have said about John the Baptist that he has a demon, maybe of non-eating and drinking?

Matthew 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.'
Luke 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.'

Now, I know by the context that their judgement was false, but that's just interesting. They might thought about John the Baptist to starve for some religious matter such as the essenes often did (and the essenes had one flaw - there has been some occult influence in their midst - and Pharisees or any official Jewish group in times of Yeshua knew it).

Second, Paul also mentions loss of eating or forcing to do that for religious purposes as demonic doctrines.

1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,
5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
(1.Timothy 4:1-5)

Some biblical teachers assign this to Celibacy (typical for RCC and Buddhism) and Vegetarianism, which is from false, eastern religions (Buddhism etc.). It may mention also this problem, what do you think?

[John]

assume that you are responding to me John

no that was directed towards jeordin. my point was that if you dont have a problem with people who choose anarexia as a lifestyle, thats like telling a liar, or murderer, or idolotrer, etc that you dont have a problem with their lifestyle.

a sin is a sin.

[thevicarsson]

My religous thoughts on this matter are that if there religion is causing them an eating disorder should it be or are they taking the word to extremes. I don't actually know of a religion that the food laws could cause eating disorders such as beulumia or the like.

[Jeordin]

umm, thanks:)