how acn yeshua be the firstfruits of all who rose? many people rose before him. Lazerous, people in the old testement that died and rose by sh'kinah throught the prophets, jarius' daughter... the list is enless.
so obviously we are interpreting sha'uls meainin wrongly.
i have deducted the Yeshua's ressurection was possibly the first ressurection of its type... a different type of ressurection that people before did not experience. people who wre ressurected before died, but Yeshua rose and did not die. this is how we will be in OUR ressurection.
please do not debate whether Yeshua rose bodily or not here-- there is another thread for that.
shalom, john
On this point, I agree with you.
I believe that Yeshua was the first one to experience THE resurrection....to receive a resurrected body. The resurrected body is of a different type than our bodies now are. Our bodies are subject to death and disease. The resurrected body is not. Plus, Yeshua could walk through walls and locked doors with His resurrected body. It is an incorruptible body.
I believe that His body was still His body, but it was transformed into the resurrected type. I believe it was still His body because the tomb was empty (no body), and He still bore the marks of the crucifixion in His resurrected body. His hands still had scars from where the nails pierced His hands and feet, and He still had a scar in His side from the spear.
Though Yeshua had raised Lazarus from the dead, and though other people had been raised from the dead in the OT, these people died again eventually. Their bodies were not changed.
It seems that a concept of this type of resurrection existed in Yeshua's time.
See the following passages:
23On that day some Sadducees (
who say there is no resurrection) came to Jesus and questioned Him,24asking, "Teacher, Moses said, 'IF A MAN DIES HAVING NO CHILDREN, HIS BROTHER AS NEXT OF KIN SHALL MARRY HIS WIFE, AND RAISE UP CHILDREN FOR HIS BROTHER.'25"Now there were seven brothers with us; and the first married and died, and having no children left his wife to his brother;26so also the second, and the third, down to the seventh.27"Last of all, the woman died.28"
In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had married her."
29But Jesus answered and said to them,
"You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God.30"
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.31"
But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God:
32'I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."33When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at His teaching.
Yeshua affirms that the resurrection is real. The Sadducees denied it. Yeshua's response was that they did not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
John 11
23Jesus said to her, "Your brother will rise again."
24Martha said to Him, "
I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day."
25Jesus said to her, "
I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies,26and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?"
27She said to Him, "Yes, Lord; I have believed that You are the Christ, the Son of God, even He who comes into the world."
Acts 23
6But perceiving that one group were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, Paul began crying out in the Council, "Brethren, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees;
I am on trial for the hope and resurrection of the dead!"
7As he said this, there occurred a dissension between the Pharisees and Sadducees, and the assembly was divided.
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or the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, nor an angel, nor a spirit, but the Pharisees acknowledge them all.
9And there occurred a great uproar; and some of the scribes of the Pharisaic party stood up and began to argue heatedly, saying, "We find nothing wrong with this man; suppose a spirit or an angel has spoken to him?"
10And as a great dissension was developing, the commander was afraid Paul would be torn to pieces by them and ordered the troops to go down and take him away from them by force, and bring him into the barracks.
Check out 1 Corinthians chapter 15
In this, Paul first argues for the evidence of Yeshua's resurrection, then confronts those who do not believe there is going to be a resurrection of the dead (this is the same thing that is referred to in the other verses), and then argues that if there is no resurrection, then Christ hasn't even been raised from the dead. But because of Christ's resurrection, then we have hope that we too will be resurrected. Finally, Paul talks about the difference between the bodies that we have now, and what they will be changed into -- incorruptible bodies.
Philippians 3:10
7But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ.8More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ,9and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,10that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death;11in order that I may attain
to the resurrection from the dead.
There are other verses, but the resurrection of the dead is something that all of the NT authors believe and attest to, and consequently it is also an essential Christian belief. That is why many of the Christian creeds include the resurrection of the dead as part of what it means to be within the bounds of Christian orthodoxy.
