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Post by thevicarsson on May 22, 2009 11:32:39 GMT -5
Yesterday was ascension day.
This is a short educational piece on Ascension Day.
Ascension Day[/u]
Ascension Day is the day Jesus ascended to heaven. To sit at the right hand side of his father. The disciples recieved the holy spirit on that day but this discussion is about what he said:
I have to go now to sit at the right-hand side of my father. But I will come again in the same way i leave now
If this an incorrect interpretation of what Jesus said i would be happy for you to put the correct one here.
A few questions you might want to consider when writing on this topic[/u]
When do you think Jesus will come again?
Do you think Jesus is among us(which is a theory against ascension day unless you think Jesus has already come again)?
Do you think Jesus was just saying he will come again to make the disciples feel better?
My stance is that Jesus will come again one day. And he will be as majestic as he was back then.
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Post by John on May 22, 2009 13:16:35 GMT -5
well, we always think of the ascencion as being a quiet ordeal. actually, there was probably a shofar sounding when he ascended. i get this becauase he will come back with a great shout at the sound of the last shofar. so either the 2nd advent will be quiet, or the ascention was loud and public.
but i didnt know that htere was such thing as ascention day. interesting.
shalom- john
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Post by itiswritten on May 22, 2009 18:44:13 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum Vicarsson.
the focus here is primarily delving into scripture and what it has to say about different issues rather than a focus upon different religions.
However, I think that it might be beneficial to take a look at this subject and compare what scripture has to say regarding holy days and the ascension with traditions. Y'shua was with the Apostles 40 days and apparently ascended ten days before Shavaot (Pentecost). Although the ascension of Y'shua is certainly important, I'm not aware of any celebration recorded in the scriptures pertaining to it specifically.
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Post by John on May 23, 2009 9:03:24 GMT -5
we could celebrate ascencion day... i have no problem celebrating christs birth ressurection, ascention, etc. i do have a problem with the pagan traditions aattached to it.
shalom- john
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Post by thevicarsson on May 23, 2009 11:32:35 GMT -5
There is no pagan traditions attached to Ascension Day
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Post by John on May 23, 2009 14:56:30 GMT -5
i will delete all of the misunderstood posts.
yeah, i didnt think so. i will have to look more but i am pretty sure that there werent any.
shalom- john
PS: note: if any person wants there post to be put back, please tell me. the whole argument could have been misunderstood, so i just deleted it. i want bonding, not friction between members.
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Post by thevicarsson on May 24, 2009 3:31:35 GMT -5
itiswritten they day i'm referring to that we celebrate the ascension is ten days before pentecost.
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Post by John on Jun 7, 2009 14:59:12 GMT -5
why do we celebrate the ascention though? what reason do you do so?
i have a few reasons, but none that would incline me to celebrate it with a festival. anyway, i want to hear your reasons.
shalom- john
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Post by thevicarsson on Jun 13, 2009 8:55:02 GMT -5
We don't celebrate it with a festival, just a service.
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Post by John on Jun 13, 2009 10:26:39 GMT -5
okay. i dont care if you do it... its not a sin or anything, and it is not based off of an idolotrous practices. i just dont bother myslf with feasts like that though. i just celebrate the ascention during the counting of the omer. then on shavuot, i celebrate the giving of the law, and the giving of the spirit so that we can follow that law. on passover, i celbrate the exodus from egypt, and i celebrate the exodus out of bondage for sin.
well , you get my point do you not? i celebrate the jewish feasts and fill them with messianic meaning while they still contain the traditional meaning.
shalom- john
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