Post by John on Sept 6, 2009 21:41:35 GMT -5
www.betemunah.org/b4sinai.html
This website demonstrates one of the most convincing arguments of the bible: that the Torah existed before mount sinai.
Now, if brings up the fact that Qayin and Abel knew of the sacrificial system, Noah knew the difference between clean and unclean animals, Abraham followed Adonai's "statues and commands" all ebfore sinai.
however, i find one passage in the Nazarean Codicil that is against this idea:
gal 3: 16-25
16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed,"[g] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
okay, so the italics says that the law was added, and that its purpose was for transgression. this "torah" cannot refer to written Torah simply because oral Torah would have also fulfilled the purpose that the law was added!
so what does this passage say?
shalom
This website demonstrates one of the most convincing arguments of the bible: that the Torah existed before mount sinai.
Now, if brings up the fact that Qayin and Abel knew of the sacrificial system, Noah knew the difference between clean and unclean animals, Abraham followed Adonai's "statues and commands" all ebfore sinai.
however, i find one passage in the Nazarean Codicil that is against this idea:
gal 3: 16-25
16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed,"[g] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
okay, so the italics says that the law was added, and that its purpose was for transgression. this "torah" cannot refer to written Torah simply because oral Torah would have also fulfilled the purpose that the law was added!
so what does this passage say?
shalom
